Tiltpoul
They take a rate(a portion of each pot)...Like at a 3/6 table they will rate $3 from every pot...progressively as the pot grows..for a max of $3 once the pot gets over $20..but different poker rooms have different rules as to how much the rack is and how it is progressively pulled out as the pot grows..
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A $3 rake will be more common in Las Vegas; outside of competitive markets for poker (i.e. Vegas, California), the rake is usually at LEAST $4 (i.e. Missouri), but most places now in the Midwest are up to $5, with the highest being $6 in Detroit. That's the max rake, with 10% taken out if the pot is less than 40, 50 or 60 dollars respectively.
The other practice that gets me at some casinos is the rake before a flop. This is by law in West Virginia.. what I mean is, say a player raises to $10, and another player raises to $40, the initial raiser goes all in to $200, causing the other to fold. The pot has 3+1+10+40=$54 before seeing a flop.. in WV and Hollywood Casino in IN they rake $5 + $1 for the bad beat on that!!! And you didn't even see a flop.
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On the flip side you need to keep those tables full...and you need 15 or so dealers to service 10 tables..that's why a lot of casinos pay prop players to play so games doesn't break down..
I have never heard of prop players in use in any Midwest casinos. I know the casinos in Tunica used to do that, but I think even that's been limited.
Most poker rooms lose money off poker tournaments that's why they are so fast..like $25 buy in $3 entry fee with 20 min rounds. and are over in about 2 hours or less..becasue the blinds get so high so fast...they are just there to draw players in..in hopes they stick around for the 'live' game after they get busted out OR take their winnings to the 'live' game..or to another table game or slots...
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This is also no longer true in the Midwest. Casinos actually make a TON of money on tournaments now. Reason being, they bump the fees up to a ridiculous amount. Most tournaments here have a $10 fee for anything less than $100 buy-in, and up to $25 for more than that. Caesars properties has made an art of bilking the player for money in tournament fees. They have tournaments where players get paid less than 60% of what the true buy-in (fees + buy-ins) are.
Part of it is a public relations thing, but casinos around here can't open a poker room fast enough if they don't have one. Unfortunately, some 'markets' have one or two big dogs, and the smaller ones can't be profitable. The competition goes away for a while, then the big dogs get greedy. Players demand that the smaller casinos reopen their rooms, and the competition comes back, albeit not as good as before they left.
'One out of every four people are [morons]'- Kyle, South Park
DJTeddyBear
I'm not at all familiar with poker rooms or poker room operations but I have seen some ads for poker room prizes that start at a certain amount and climb. I assumed that starting amount was casino seed money and that the escalation was from a rake. As I understand it some of those bad beat jackpots grow to such figures that alot of players keep playing in the hopes that they will be there to qualify for a share of some jackpot distribution.
You're probably talking about Bad Beat jackpots. Because BOTH hands must have pocket pairs for quads, or use both cards for a SF, and the minimum hand is typically quads, the jackpot sometimes doesn't hit for months and can grow quite large.Typically, the casino takes an extra $1 out of any pot over $20. Only hands where the pot is at least $20 qualify. At the end of the day, those dollars are added to the current jackpot prize.
That prize is typically divided as: Of the total prize posted, 50% goes to the 'loser' of the bad beat. 25% to the winner. 25% divided amongst the other players at the table. Some casinos divide the remainder amoung all players in the room. The four Caesars properties in AC are linked so that the remainder is divided amoung all players in all 4 rooms.
Note that the prize posted is only 80% of the total collected. 20% held in reserve to reseed the Bad Beat.
When a casino initially introduces the bad beat jackpot, they will fund it with about $20,000. While that's their own money, they are not really being generous. A small portion of the daily contribution is taken to repay the casino for the initial seed, until repaid. If the 20% in reserve be below that threshold, the casino will top it off, and again take a small portion.
Some casinos have a different type of jackpot. Mohegan Sun in CT does a High Hand every 4 hours. For 3 hours, they take $1 out of pots of over $20, and record and announce the highest qualifying hand. During the 4th hour, they empty the buckets, count the chips and award the prize. The qualifier announcements generally starts as 'quad __ with __ kicker.' Before it's done, the qualifier is usual 'SF __ high', and is often escalates to a Royal. Ties split the pot.
Last Christmas morning, with very few players in the room, and about 45 minutes to go, I qualified with quad sixes. Because there were so few players, I had high hopes. But with about 5 minutes remaining, I got beat. Sigh.
On the original subject, the casino takes, usually, 10% of the pot, for a maximum of, typically, $4. Some take $5. Some take as little as $3. If you read my review of Royal Caribbean Cruise, they take a maximum of $15. On the cruise, more than once we heard the phrase, 'Don't like it? Go to the casino next door.'
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? ? Note that the same could be said for Religion. I.E. Religion is nothing more than organized superstition. ?
Tiltpoul
I've never played in one so I may be missing an obvious facet of playing Texas Hold'em, but where does the casino make money for hosting players for hours on end? Drink service? Entry fee? House commission?
In Ohio, we don't have casinos (yet, they are on the horizon). However, there is a law that allows card rooms to exist as clubs. In these cases, the 'house' charges a membership fee and then a 'daily use fee.' These are a bit higher on the front end, but then they don't rake the pot. (Most clubs are now taking a $1 or $2 out for a bad beat jackpot/jackpot hand scenario.) There were a couple clubs that did actually rake, instead of charging a fee, but that's illegal, and I think those operations get shut down by other card room owners trying to skim the competition.
It's a lot less seedy than it sounds. They are usually in strip malls near 'games of skill' slot parlors or internet cafes, although a few exist in nicer venues. These are legit games, and if you play a lot, it's much cheaper in the long run than having a rake taken out. There are three or four 'big' clubs that usually have at least 3 games going, then a bunch of medium sized clubs that have one or two sometimes going on. The places pop up for a while then disappear without any warning (except for the big ones; they have loyal followings and are usually the best run anyways).
The other caveat is that dealers are not considered employees, but rather volunteers. The players cannot pay them in actual money, so you buy 'chocolate chips' which are brown $1 chips to be cashed by employees only. Some clubs have put those on the table for the dealer to convert, while others require you buy them at the cage. The only club employees then are security and managers, limiting overhead.
'One out of every four people are [morons]'- Kyle, South Park
Tiltpoul
On the original subject, the casino takes, usually, 10% of the pot, for a maximum of, typically, $4. Some take $5. Some take as little as $3. If you read my review of Royal Caribbean Cruise, they take a maximum of $15. On the cruise, more than once we heard the phrase, 'Don't like it? Go to the casino next door.'
I'm not a cruise person so I didn't read that particular article, sorry..
I'm guessing you had to file a police report after getting off the cruise if you were playing poker.. that's an open and shut case of RAPE!!
'One out of every four people are [morons]'- Kyle, South Park
DJTeddyBear
On the cruise, more than once we heard the phrase, 'Don't like it? Go to the casino next door.'
I should point out that the phrase was jokingly said by a player, not the staff.Quote: Tiltpoul
I'm not a cruise person so I didn't read that particular article, sorry..
I understand completely. For what it's worth, I'm 52, and this was my first cruise. Before I sailed, I didn't think I was a cruise person either. Now I'm anxious to go again.For what it's worth, I went into detail about the ship's casino in this post.
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? ? Note that the same could be said for Religion. I.E. Religion is nothing more than organized superstition. ?
Tiltpoul
For what it's worth, I went into detail about the ship's casino in this post.
Actually in the meantime, I did find your review of the poker room on the cruise thread. I find it hysterical that they used an empty BJ table for poker. I'm guessing the rakes REALLY got screwed up on that table, as the dealer probably wasn't thinking that far ahead.
Depending on how it was dealt, I probably would have turned over an A-Face immediately, expecting to get paid 3:2.
'One out of every four people are [morons]'- Kyle, South Park
98Clubs
So whats the overall House Advantage in Poker rooms for ring-games? 1%, 2%?
AlanMendelson
Non ring games? You mean poker tournaments. When you buy into a poker tourney you pay a 'fee' on top of the buy-in.
Example: $125 buy in + $25 fee = $150 total cost.
Of this money $125 goes to the players, the house gets zip. The house gets the entire $25 'fee' to pay for the costs of running the tourney -- bricks and mortar, dealers, refreshments (if offered), etc.
With the ring or cash games, part of the drop or rake might actually go towards a jackpot pool. But you have to check about the percentage of the 'jackpot contribution' that is returned to the players when the jackpot is hit. At a few of the casinos where I play, they take HALF of the jackpot pool as an administration fee. You'd never know that if you didnt ask for the rules at the cage.
The rake or drop can vary based on the denomination of the game, and the number of players, and if the casino runs some special 'low rake' promotion.
Example: $125 buy in + $25 fee = $150 total cost.
Of this money $125 goes to the players, the house gets zip. The house gets the entire $25 'fee' to pay for the costs of running the tourney -- bricks and mortar, dealers, refreshments (if offered), etc.
With the ring or cash games, part of the drop or rake might actually go towards a jackpot pool. But you have to check about the percentage of the 'jackpot contribution' that is returned to the players when the jackpot is hit. At a few of the casinos where I play, they take HALF of the jackpot pool as an administration fee. You'd never know that if you didnt ask for the rules at the cage.
The rake or drop can vary based on the denomination of the game, and the number of players, and if the casino runs some special 'low rake' promotion.
pacomartin
I've never played in one so I may be missing an obvious facet of playing Texas Hold'em, but where does the casino make money for hosting players for hours on end? Drink service? Entry fee? House commission?
Out of 251 casinos in Nevada last year that made a minimum of $1 million in gaming revenue for the year all of them had slots, 155 had pit games, 99 had race and/or sports betting, and 94 had poker.
For smaller casinos poker only collects enough money from the rake to pay for the cost of the poker room and the dealers. The casino is hoping that these players will stick around and play more profitable games. Sometimes friends accompany the poker player and play slots or pit games. So it is basically a loss leader.
Poker brings in 1.6% of the total gaming revenue for NV, sports brings in 1.4%, and race book brings in 0.7%. So in general you can probably refer to them collectively as means to attract people into the casinos. There are some exceptions, casinos that do make a bigger profit on poker.
mrjjj
I've asked this question in the past at GG, its a good topic.
Ken
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Let’s start by calculating the costs of running an Internet casino each month. The biggest expense most online casinos have is software related. Almost all gambling sites lease their softwarefrom one of the big 3 casino software providers:
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- Playtech
- Microgaming
- Net Entertainment
I’ve seen estimates that claim these 3 companies power 60% of all online casinos.
All of them have one thing in common:
They’re expensive.
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All of these providers charge $11,000 or $12,000 a month to lease their software. They also get a 15% cut of the casinos’ winnings. That’s a pretty big expense right out of the gate.
How Does Casino Make Money From Poker Money
But that’s not the only expense. Almost all online casinos run an affiliate program in order to drive business to their site.
Here’s how that works:
A webmaster runs a gambling information portal or site. He signs up for a casino affiliate program. He advertises the casino in exchange for a commission on each player.
This commission usually takes 1 of 2 forms:
- A CPA (cost per acquisition)
- Revshare (revenue sharing)
A CPA is a flat amount that the casino pays the affiliate for each player who signs up and makes a deposit at the casino. This amount can range from $25 to $500, depending on how much volume asite is able to send a casino.
With a CPA arrangement, the casino risks paying more for the player than the player loses to the casino. But it’s okay, because over a large number of players, a casino has an idea of what theaverage player is going to lose. That amount is always more than the CPA.
I’ve heard from reliable sources that the average online casino gambler is worth at least $1000. That takes into account the low rollers who only deposit and lose $25, but it also takes intoaccount the high rollers who deposit and lose $10,000 a month for months at a time.
Wheel of fortune game bonus round person. The other arrangement is called revshare, or revenue sharing. In this arrangement, the casino pays the affiliate a percentage of the players’ losses for the lifetime of the player. This amountvaries, but it hovers around 25%. Big affiliates can demand higher revshare percentages.
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So if an affiliate refers a player who deposits and loses $10,000 a month, he gets $2500 in commission each month.
But affiliates on revshare also have to take into account the amount of money their referred players win. If that $10,000 a month high roller gets on a hot streak, he can wipe out the earningsfrom the other dozen or 100 players the affiliate has referred.
So far we have a flat fee of $12,000 a month going out the door. We’re also seeing 25% of the casino’s wins being paid out in commissions, and we have 15% royalties going to the softwareprovider.
Casinos also have to pay for customer service and hosting. Let’s assume you can operate a world class customer service department using offshore labor and spending only $5000 a month.
Let’s also assume that a casino is using its own secure server. I don’t have a lot of experience with Web hosting for sites with this kind of traffic or that sites that use so much bandwidth byhosting games, but I’m going to assume it’s expensive, but not too expensive. I’m going to call it $2500 a month. And if I’m way off on that estimate, let me know in the comments section.
So now we have almost $20,000 a month in fixed expenses, and we have 40% of player revenue accounted for on top of that. So just to break even, an online casino needs to earn enough money so that60% of its earnings equate to $20,000 a month.
So we’re looking at a minimum casino win of at least $33,000 a month just to break even.